RAMA FILES FILE CODE: 1.3 Personal Stories XREF: 4.0 Teaching/Doctrine FILE: 01FICKLN.RA4 NOTES ON RAMA By James Ficklin February, 1994 This paper is meant to be of help for anyone (family, friends, relatives) who is concerned with the well-being of a current follower of Frederick Lenz. This is meant to help people familiarize themselves with the philosophy, beliefs and teachings of Lenz. It's also meant to help people understand the rhetoric, language, and terminology that is commonly used within his group. I have just recently left the group (end of Jan. 94), thanks to the kindness and concern of a special loved one, with the assistance of Joe Szimhart, and a handful of remarkable former students, all of whom I am eternally grateful to. I was exit-counselled (not "deprogramed) voluntarily, without any coercion whatsoever. I decided to listen to a former student's personal story mostly out of curiosity. I had never met a person who had left the study on their own, and I truly couldn't imagine a good enough reason for anyone to leave. At first I thought people I met were perhaps the so-called "enemy" sent by CAN! I had been instilled with fears of being kidnapped; tied up and locked in a hotel room for days on end (which is the image of deprogramming that Lenz promotes). But since I felt no intimidation or physical threat of any kind, I thought it would be a good challenge to stand up for my beliefs. It didn't seem likely that these friendly people were the hideous villains from CAN. I could tell they were Buddhists like myself; they could speak my language and knew everything about the group that I knew. Even if they were "the bad guys", I was reminded of Sun Tzu's lesson in The Art of War, that a "true warrior studies his enemy." Plus, we were in restaurant, I was with a girl I loved, and their civility was genuine so I felt no "negative vibes" coming from them. I also agreed to listen due to my belief that Rama's teachings were unassailable, and that nothing in this world could dissuade me from his path. Fortunately Rama's teachings are easily assailed, and my Lenzian-logic did not hold up to critical analysis at all. I was presented with information that I had never encountered before, and it's truthfulness was so obvious that I could not ignore it. I was amazed how fast my raison d etre was proven to be totally bogus and illusory, when before it had felt so real. I guess the truth is more powerful than fiction My emotional attachment to his group lasted longer, but I soon saw for myself how I had been lied to by Lenz himself, and that my fellow students had also been deceived. I have nothing against any of Lenz's students, they are my friend and I would do anything for them. However, I will not remain silent as long as Lenz continues manipulate them in the name of "Buddhist Yoga". When I first got involved I became an "apprentice" of one of his "intermediate students", Christine Comaford, (a.k.a. "Tara"), who had been a student of Lenz for over 10 years. She was my "mentor" for my first year, and a lot of my early instruction came through her, indirectly from him. I first met her in San Francisco, in Dec. 1991; and my first encounter with Lenz was in Jan. 1992, at the Four-Seasons hotel in Beverly Hills. I had just turned 25 and was unemployed. I had previously traveled extensively throughout Europe, Mexico, and especially Asia. I had spent 6 months in India and three in Nepal; traveling extensively, studying buddhism and trying to meditate. I was always looking for some sort of personal spiritual guidance. I didn't find exactly what I was looking for in India and Asia, although I did meet a guy who started teaching me all kinds of wild stuff involving metphysics and occultism. He also introduced me to books by Alice Bailey, Rudolf Steiner, Edgar Cayce and others. He also got me into A.A. Returning to this country I found few who could relate to my spiritual yearing. I took shelter in 12-step programs, a dream study group, past-life hypnosis and occult books; yet I still found myself in a depressing rut. When I met Tara I thought I had found someone who could assist me. She didn't charge me any money; she wasn't pushy; and she seemed very organized, very happy, and interested in helping me. She taught free meditation classes, and had a good sense of humor, (she also ran her own software company at the age of 29). I had my doubts at first, but they soon dissipated. I became close friends with a great bunch of young people, and we soon had lots of adventures together. I felt like I had found people who could relate to me, and it was a wonderful time. They seemed dedicated to the goal of Enlightenment and spoke of "the Dharma", "psychic energy", "happiness" and referred to modern day obstacles as "bardos", (a term I had only read about in Tibetan texts.) I was involved with the group for a little over 2 years, during which time I devoted my entire life to the pursuit of "Enlightenment", via the teachings of Lenz. I thought I had found what I was looking for. I became totally convinced that Lenz was an "Enlightened being" and that I was following an authentic branch of Buddhism that is known as " the short path". He spoke of very beautiful spiritual topics, told poignant stories, and seemed to know more about Buddhism, Yoga, and "the Occult" than anyone else I had ever heard of, let alone met. The opportunity to be one of his direct students seemed like a chance of a lifetime. I was told it was more like "a chance in a thousand lifetimes". I am no longer a 'student' of Lenz, but I still consider myself a student of Buddhism and other forms of spirituality. My involvement with Lenz has been a great source of confusion for me. I am currently attempting to discriminate between authentic spiritual practice and Lenz' form of spiritual manipulation and cult-like authoritarianism. I'm not an expert at any of this stuff; I'm just trying to make sense of it for myself, and hopefully to help others in the process. From what I hear, Lenz's teachings have changed considerably over time, and it's true that he has separated his new students from his older students, therefore he could change his teachings and deny what he use to teach, and his newer students would never know the difference. During my involvement I never heard the term "L.O." (Lower Occult) which apparently was used heavily in the past. Maybe I had not been in long enough to hear some of the truly weird and demented stuff that he is known to teach his "intermediate students". The terminology we used changed over time, as did a lot of the teachings. Therefore this paper is really only attempting to cover the past two years, for anyone who's friend or child has been involved with the group during that time. Lenz goes by the name "Rama" and nothing else; although his inner circle or "intermediate students", often refer to him as "the Chief", or "the CEO". It is no longer "Zen Master Rama". His followers are called "students", not "followers", "disciples" or "believers" (the term "apprentice" was dropped). He is the "Teacher"(not "Guru" or "Master") and they are his "students", and that's the only way they see it. There are certain terms that should be avoided when communicating with a follower of Lenz. These could be defined as "loaded language" according to Robert J. Lifton. These words include: Cult, CAN - the Cult Awareness Network, deprogram, kidnap, LenzWatch, Patrick Roe, Joe Szimhart, Mark Laxer (or any reference to his book, "Take Me for a Ride". The mere mention of these terms can instantly cause apprehension and suspicion in the mind of a follower, therefore I do not suggest you use them while communicating with them. Also, if you refer to Lenz as anything other than "Rama" or "your teacher" they will probably be offended. Lenz is very particular about language (having a Ph.D. in English) and it's important to be aware of his terminology and the meanings behind them. I feel it is extremely important, for anyone concerned, to learn as much as they can about the real spiritual teachings behind all this, i.e. Buddhism, Zen, Hinduism, Tibetan Tantra, and the Occult sciences. If you want to learn the dynamics of cults and cult leaders in general, which I also highly recommend, I suggest reading Robert J. Lifton to learn the psychology of "thought reform", and others (see below) but the people involved with Rama's little cult know very little about cults. They do not study the subject and they will deny vehemently that they are involved with one. The idea that "Rama" is a cult leader is totally preposterous from their viewpoint, and they will most likely laugh at the idea. To them it is the "Dharma", the actual living tradition of Buddhism; and a mixture of the most sophisticated branches of mysticism, including: Taoism, Zen, Vajrayana Buddhism, Tantra, Kundalini Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Karma Yoga and Raja yoga, as well as an Occult tradition dating back to Egypt and Atlantis. He doesn't claim to follow any of these traditions in a strict sense. He call his version "the salad bar approach", because he picks a little bit from each. he claims that since he is Enlightened he has the right and even a "duty" to "redefine tradition." In order to begin to understand the mind frame of a follower of Lenz, you should familiarize yourself, as much as possible, with these actual ancient traditions. This will also help you see the inconsistencies where Lenz' teachings diverge from true practice. Hopefully, you can then tactfully point these out to your friend or loved one, and encourage them to analyze their situation and think for themselves. Rama's recommended book list may even be of benefit to you, if you want to know where your child/friend is coming from. In particular: Carlos Castenada's Tales of Power, Journey to Ixtlan, The Power of Silence, and The art of Dreaming. (Lenz draws heavily from these books.) Other include: The art of War by Sun Tzu, The Ramayana, and the Bhagavad Gita translated by Isherwood, The Tibetan Book of the Dead, Tibetan Yoga and Secret Doctrines both by Evans-Wentz, The Talisman by Steven King, Journey to Ladakh by Andrew Harvey, and The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying by Sogyal Rinpoche. Further non-Lenz suggestions for spiritual books include: The Ochre Robe by Agehananda Bharati; Karma Cola and The River Sutra both by Gita Mehta, Journey East, Journey West, by Mircea Eliade and Harper and Row's Perennial Dictionary of World Relgions (good for general overview). For knowledge about cults in general the following are recommended: Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, by Robert J. Lifton; Combating Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan, TM and Cult Mania by Persinger, Carry and Seuss; My Father's Guru by Jeffrey Masson. And of course a 'must read' for anyone curious about Lenz is Mark Laxer's personal account Take Me for a Ride. ________________ I hope that people will not be turned away from Buddhism, Yoga or any other Eastern or Western spiritual practice after hearing about Lenz and other false teachers. The clever ways in which Lenz has used authentic spiritual teachings to manipulate and enslave the very people who he claims to be "liberating" is both repugnant and frightening. His methods are complex, ever changing and incredibly deceptive, so I can understand how people could feel inclined to avoid all possible forms of mysticism and Eastern religion out of disgust or fear. But I think that would be the real tragedy. To sterotype and label something as complex and as potent as Buddhism/Yoga, and to disregard it, with all of its beneficial aspects, just because some asshole has misued it to create his own selfish empire, is a narrow-minded mistake. Spiritual practice and Eastern reglion need to be examined all the more thoroughly and their true messages need to be known. Valid spiritual practice and self-discovery needs to be carefully studied, analyzed, respected and understood by Westerners in general, and never laughed at or ridiculed. Otherwise, the Lenz-like "occultists" will remain secretive, elitist, sub-cultures that thrive off of the ignorance of American society and feed off the cream of her energetic, idealist youth. The following questions are suggested as a means of engaging a follower of Lenz in a meaningful conversation, and as an alternative to superficial chit-chat (which is probably what they think is the most "appropriate" way to communicate to people outside their group.) Hopefully some of these questions will get them thinking more deeply about their involvement. More importantly, I hope it will encourage communication and foster trust between followers and their parents/family/friends. It is difficult to help someone if they do not trust you, and it's difficult to communicate openly to someone who's under Lenz's influence. They pride themselves in being "inaccessible" and unattached, so it is not likely that they will open up to you or tell you exactly how they feel. They are told to keep their inner-most feelings to themselves, and that "keeping personal things 'private' will keep them more pure, sharing them with others will dilute them." If a student of Lenz feels that you are sincere in your desire to learn about Buddhism or self-discovery, then he/she will be more likely to open up, and if you can speak their language (or at least show interest in learning about it) they may be more inclined to 'help you'. They might then start talking freely and openly (and you may have trouble shutting them up). But the more you know about the subject, the more respect they'll have for you. If you tell them you are reading books about Yoga and Eastern Religion they will most likely be impressed and won't 'talk down to you' as much. Lenz makes them feel like they have been shown some of life's most precious secrets, and you may notice their tone of superiority. Don't let it bother you. They think that they know a lot and that maybe they could really help you by sharing some of their "knowledge". Although Lenz does not encourage people to talk, it's hard to keep all theses "secrets" inside, so if you can get them talking it could get interesting. Ask questions and listen to their answers. Take notes and study their philosophy. There are plenty of holes in Rama's teachings, but it isn't easy pointing them out to his followers. They have to come to their conclusions themselves. If they feel like you are pushing your views upon them, they will quickly withdraw. Always be sincere and never confrontational, but don't let them sell you their party line. Stand up for what you know to be true, and tell them politely if you disagree. If you can use authentic Buddhist teachings to point out Rama's flaws, then from their eyes you'll gain a lot more credit, even if they seem to reject it. Suggestions for questions to ask a student of Lenz. How does Meditation help you? Most likely they'll tell you extremely positive things, and they will be very sincere about it. Try to listen to what they say and be a good listener. This topic is "the cornerstone of the Pathway to Enlightenment" so it shouldn't be a touchy subject, if you are honestly interested in what they think and feel, this is the question to ask. The experience of meditation is a personal experience and it can be different for everyone. Most everyone who meditates has difficulty with it; some people in the group have more difficulty than others. The goal of meditation (as stated by Lenz,) is "to stop thought". When this happens you are supposed to "experience light". You can enter into a very peaceful, trance-like state that is extremely pleasant and relaxing. Many people do see "Light", and all kinds of other visual phenomena. Some people feel that they have left their body and entered into different realms, worlds of pure light and ecstasy. Lenz calls these dimensions "the Planes of Light" or "the causal realms". Some people don't have any kind of visions, and they will sometimes feel badly about themselves, thinking that they are not good meditators. Everyone who meditates will at times feel wonderful sensations of clarity, peace and ecstasy; although certainly not every time. These experiences are real to the person having them, they are not fantasy, so it is important to respect that. I personally believe that anyone who meditates twice a day, every day, for extended periods of time (months, years) can have these experiences. It is not exclusive to students of an "Enlightened teacher". Stopping thought is very difficult; try it yourself sometime. To hold your mind in a state of emptiness, without any thoughts running through it takes intense concentration, practice and endurance, it can actually feel like a mental workout sometimes. Lenz describes it as something akin to "doing push-ups". Although I feel Lenz has taught people a very narrow and quite possibly dangerous style of meditation, (for the mere fact that he tells students to "focus on the Teacher" while meditating) I respect anyone who puts their heart into it. Meditation has been around for centuries, and its positive effects are well known. It's unimaginable to a student of Lenz, that any kind of harm could ever come from it. I personally see it as a form of "mystical manipulation" (to borrow a term from Lifton) in that Lenz teaches a valid, yet difficult meditation technique, that can definitely bring about experiences of ecstasy; but he then takes personal credit for any spiritual phenomena that occurs. Plus, he gets to berate and belittle his students for not meditating well. This makes him even more powerful and seemingly clairvoyant, for "seeing" that his students are lousy meditators, even though anyone who has ever meditated has certainly had trouble with it at times. While meditating, his followers usually listen to music that he has created with his band Zazen. The music is not required, but they all started out using it and now seem to be hooked. It's very soothing music, and if you live in a noisy place it blocks out extraneous noise. Lenz claims his music also blocks out other peoples auras, which are so prevalent on this over-populated planet that no one can meditate as well as they used to (like back in the good old days of Japan and Tibet). He calls other peoples thoughts "psychic pollution" and claims to be highly sensitive to it. He's always whining about how hard it is for him to be so telepathic. Another purpose of meditation is to "gain energy". "The more you meditate, the more 'Energy' you will accumulate." Everyone in the group is encouraged to meditate as often and as intensely as possible (minimum of twice a day). Most of them enjoy it and will have nothing bad to say about it. It can be one of the few profoundly individual and joyous experiences that his students ever have. The only problem is that most of them associate this personal experience not with their own "connection to God" but with "Rama" and "his energy". What is taught at these Seminars you go to? Don't expect an open answer to this one, but if you ask it with the right tone of voice, sincere and curious, they may tell you some interesting things. Lenz will usually lecture for 4-5 hours, with a 1/2 hour break in the middle. During this time he will speak on a variety of topics, and will often have a question and answer period. His talks are sometimes referred to as "Zen dialogs". These are very long and complicated talks that usually end up going in circles and can often contain amazing contradictions which he claims is a sophisticated way of using the paradoxical nature of reality to break down peoples mental barriers, and to "shift" or "spin" them out of their ordinary, rational patterns of thought. This is all done in the name of "mind expansion", by going beyond the linear, analytical mind into the abstract world of "Chaos theory", "Zen Koans" and "Incongruity". Lenz claims to be lifting his students into higher dimensions of "Mind", but is probably just creating a state of "cognitive dissonance"(an uncomfortable, confused state whereby the mind begs for release through any kind of explanation, no matter how zany, and is overjoyed once one is given). He has an incredible way of making the most ridiculous claims sound like the purest and most noble truths. He is a talented speaker (irregardless of his abysmal performance on video or TV) and can captivate huge crowds and hold their unwavering attention for hours on end. I remember at times sitting at the edge of my seat completely engrossed in his every word. I remember my breath slowing down and my eyes getting sore from not blinking, my mind would be perfectly still and I'd feel great afterwards. From what I hear, these are common signs of being hypnotized, but at the time, I never suspected a thing, it just felt great. His use of language is sophisticated, and he exudes an air of self-confidence and wisdom. He is also one of the funniest persons I've ever met. As strange as it may seem, his sense of humor is incredible. Often however, he will use it to mimic and insult anyone he feels like, including students who ask sincere questions. This can often lead to a feeling of intimidation. Students become very wary of what questions they ask, especially in front of everyone else. More often than not they'll get ridiculed. Sometimes the humor can be a welcome relief, other times it can bite very deeply. One noted trademark is his ability to diffuse a tense moment with humor. Lenz will often talk about things that make people uncomfortable, fearful, and sometimes paranoid; the silence and nervousness in the room becomes very intense. Then he will make some ludicrous joke that breaks the tension and everyone explodes with laughter. Thus everybody feels better by the end of the night, even though their minds have been seriously fucked with. Lenz once looked me right in the eyes and said, with an air of contempt, "I like to fuck with people's minds." He also swears a lot. During breaks (and after the seminar ends) students are able to approach him and speak to him individually, although it is a very nerve-racking and fearful experience for most. He pretends to be very personable and casual, but actually the tension is extreme. I remember my heart-beat racing as I stood face to face with him asking a very personal question. His answers can be profound wisdom or demented self-serving paranoia, depending on his mood. The main purpose of the Seminars, according to Lenz, is to conduct "Empowerments"; direct transmission of "Energy" from the Teacher to the student. He claims this is an ancient technique that has been practiced by advanced schools of mysticism dating back to time immemorial, and draws many correlation's to the Tibetan Tantric tradition. Needless to say, he makes his students feel like this is an amazing privilege. He states that merely being in the same room with him is such an overwhelming advantage to any practitioner of Yoga, that if he were doing the same thing in Nepal or India, literally hundreds of thousands of people would travel by foot, over the Himalayas, overcoming any obstacle, just for the chance to be physically near him. If he was truly Enlightened, on the level of a Buddha, then this is not so far fetched. Remember that his students all truly believe he is Enlightened, thus the feelings they have towards him are of absolute awe and respect, and all of this makes perfect sense to them. They feel they are the most fortunate people on the Planet today, to be direct students of a living Buddha, and it's the power of their beliefs and the intensity of their commitment that, I feel, are the true source of the "miracles" they experience. What is this "Energy" that you talk of, where does it come from, can you describe it more? (Obviously, if you've never heard them mention it, don't ask this question in this manner.) "Energy" is also called "Kundalini", "Chi" (pronounced 'kee'), or "Power" by Lenz. Other terms for it are "Prana" and "Shakti"; Lenz will also use "Energy" as a synonym for "Light". "Light is energy, and energy is light", in the same way Lenz will often say "Yoga is Buddhism, and Buddhism is Yoga". It's probably best not to try to be too technical with these terms, as Lenz says that these are just "words" that are trying to describe things that are "beyond description". If you try to hold them to specific definitions, they will think you are missing the point. Lenz claims that one of the key elements to Buddhist practice is the "accumulation and conservation of energy". He says that in order to reach advanced levels of consciousness, you need to have a tremendous amount of energy. He describes his students as buckets with holes in them. That all the energy that goes in, will drain out through these "holes". So initially his teachings emphasize plugging up these holes, stopping the leaks. This is the visual metaphor that corresponds to "being drained". At other times these "openings" are described as "lines" of psychic energy, something similar to an invisible umbilical cord. His key point is that the biggest source of "energy drain" is from those people whom you are emotionally attached to, especially family, lovers and close friends. It is subtly suggested that students should "detach" themselves from those they are most "attached" to. This will supposedly allow them to retain more of the "Energy" that they work so hard to gain.. In some cases, students are told that they are being "drained" at an alarming rate by certain people (often parents or lovers), and that they should avoid them completely and end all interaction with them. If you try to pressure a student of Rama's in any way, they will see this as some sort of attack and that you are really trying to "steal" their "energy" or "drain" them . They believe that it is possible for people to drain each other without being in their physical proximity, via telephones, the "Astral realms", or "the Dream plane". Energy is sometimes said to be neutral, but it can be used for both positive and negative purposes, depending upon the "intent" put behind it. They often use the term "Negative Energy" to describe people, places or situations. People are known to "throw negative energy at you", like when someone gets mad at you, or if they look at you funny. Unfortunately, through the power of suggestion, the pliability of the mind, imagination, and a bit of truth, students do actually "feel" this energy and it is not a fantasy to them. If you were to get mad at them, even over the telephone, to them it could actually feel like you had just punched them in the stomach. They become very concerned about the "Energy" around them; the place they live, where they work, where they go to the bathroom, who they interact with, and especially who they touch! Remember that this is very real for them, and any mockery of the subject can be insulting to them. But depending on the person, they might be able to laugh at the absurdity of some of it. If you can get them joking about it, then that's a major step. Based on certain well known theories of physics and metaphysics they are taught that the whole universe is made up of Energy/Light. Everything in the physical world (including "emotions and thoughts"), is made up of different levels of energy vibrations. These levels are just the frequencies at which things vibrate at. The faster the vibration, the more energy there is. Thus, the terms "high vibe" and "low vibe". As a student of Lenz you are taught to avoid "low vibe" situations and strive for situations that are "high vibe", meaning situations that involve I energy that vibrates at a higher frequency. At times this can become an obsessive quest. The "students" are always seeking high vibe apartments, cars, clothes, food, occupations, friends, pets, etc.... Invariably Lenz teaches that new things (like new cars, new clothes, new condominiums), as well as expensive things, have the highest vibes. He claims that the reason some things are more expensive, more valuable, or more sought after, is because they are composed of a higher energy, ("Evian vibrates faster than other mineral waters"). In this manner, Rama turns materialism into a spiritual pursuit for his followers. He will actually relate the attainment of wealth with the achievement of higher levels of energy, and thus a higher level of spiritual advancement. Also, he gets everyone rather paranoid about the "vibration" of just about everything in their life. He claims that you can pick up negative energy by simply sitting in a chair that another person has previously sat in, especially if that person was in a confused or "low vibe" state while sitting there. What about being psychic? How psychic are you? Lenz tells all his students that they are "unusually psychic". He says that everyone in the world is psychic but most people are not aware of it. He says that most peoples minds are too cluttered and too confused, but those who practice Buddhism and meditation will clear out all the crap from their minds and will become more sensitive to their own psychic abilities. "Psychic Energy" is the energy of thoughts, and again this can be used in positive and negative ways. Lenz claims that " the Universe is adversarial" and that most beings, be they humans or "astral plane entities", can and do, mess with your thoughts. He claims that whenever you think of a person, (or place) you will "actually psychically touch them" especially while meditating. He also says that if a you continually think about something, you will be exerting a huge amount of psychic energy on it, and that it can eventually manifest on the physical plane. So you shouldn't ever hold negative thoughts about anyone, unless of course they are out to get you, in which case it would be like self-defense. Of course since the Universe is inherently adversarial, that means that everyone and everything is probably out to get you, (i.e., "trying to steal your energy"). Why do you feel like you need a spiritual Teacher? Everyone feels like they need some sort of guidance in this crazy world. Students of Lenz are seekers who are looking for the best guidance possible. They think they have found a solution to all of life's miseries and mysteries. They feel that they will be guided to a better place, a higher world, Samadhi, Nirvana, a state of perfect bliss, "The Western Paradise". Or else they just want to be happy, and they feel like this guy knows how to be happy and can teach them a thing or two. He gives tons of practical and useful advise on how to get through life without being dependent on others, except of course, everyone eventually becomes dependent on him for advice, and "Empowerments". It is this dependency that, over time, turns into a destructive addiction. None of his students have become Enlightened or reached Samadhi, and he never mentions any former successes from all his past lives of teaching. For all the claims he makes, you would think he'd have more successful former students. He's always cutting down his "intermediate students", telling us how "screwed up" they are. About all he can say about his former students is that they make more money now than they did before they met him, or else that "they have gone crazy because they couldn't handle the Energy".. How do you know if your teacher is really Enlightened? This question needs to be asked and his students need to ask themselves over and over, because something in there just doesn't feel right. Be careful to word this question properly, and don't be condescending! If you ask: "Do you really think he's Enlightened?" the answer is an easy "Yes", because they probably really do think that. But the real question is: Is he ? And that's what they need to ponder for themselves. If they seem absolutely sure he is, ask them: "By what criteria can anyone tell an Enlightened being from a non-enlightened being." and "How can you be so sure?" If they're not sure, ask them if they can explain their doubts. This may be tricky for them. Doubts are "negative thoughts" and students are told to eliminate them, they are not use to analyzing them or even recognizing them. Part of meditation practice is the art of "stopping your thoughts" so after awhile, his students become proficient at filtering out certain thoughts, and only letting in the "positive" ones. Thus, they do seem happy (on the surface) most all of the time. But when it comes to true discrimination and debate (neglected Yogic teachings in Rama' s course) his students are often unprepared and it's difficult to predict how they will respond. All of them are very bright and could most likely argue any point they want; but if you can use their own logic to show them an undeniable truth or two, it will affect them immensely, even if it takes some time to sink in. Try to encourage their questioning mind. Try to encourage investigation. Support their search for the Truth. Tactfully ask them to keep their eyes open, and to observe everything that is happening around them, and to be careful of the dependency that students can feel for teachers. After all, the true goal of Yoga is freedom, not dependency. You could remind them that the "fast path" can be a dangerous path, and if they ever feel like they are "in too deep", that you'll always be willing to help them any way you can. (Except I wouldn't offer to send them quantities of money, because it will just go into Lenz's pocket). Can Rama perform miracles? Does everyone see the same miracle? Students assert that they are able to meditate better when they are in a room with Lenz. Most students do actually have profound spiritual experiences while at the seminars, or during desert trips. They will see Lenz with gold light emanating from his body, they will see bright white light, lines of energy coming from his hands; some will see him disappear, levitate or change forms; he'll turn into an old oriental man with a long beard, a Tibetan deity or any other kind of symbolic spiritual image. One of the key points here is that not everybody sees the same "miracle". Everyone seems to see something different. A lot of people see absolutely nothing, although they usually don't admit it, they just feel bad about themselves, like they are not very "spiritually evolved". Some get very depressed because they see nothing while all their friends see such amazing things. Lenz encourages people to stand up and describe the "miracles" they see. He's extra nice to the people who see amazing things, and will sometimes insult those who see mundane, ordinary things. He will even tell students detailed descriptions of the visions other people have seen in the past, thus planting an idea in their head of what they should be seeing. While at the "events", everyone is told to maintain a "meditative state of mind". Which means literally to stop thought, relax completely and "let go" of all doubts. In this way the analytical, discriminating mind is shut down, and anything Lenz says is absorbed without resistance or discernment. The scientific study of 'hypnotic suggestion' will shed some real "light" on this subject. But the assertion by most "students" that what they have experienced in "Rama's presence", are genuine miracles, akin to the biblical miracles of Christ, is an overwhelming factor in their belief that he is indeed an "Enlightened Being". Another key point is that Lenz himself, will often state that the important thing is not what you 'see' but 'how you feel'. Thus those who see nothing will be vindicated as long as they "feel good" during a group meditation. Entering into a peaceful, blissful, ecstatic state can be just as convincing to people that some sort of "Magic" is going on. Of course, if you meditate twice a day for months and years, devote every ounce of your being to what you firmly believe is genuine spiritual practice, if your intention is pure, then, given the amount of anticipation and hype that surrounds "Rama's" events, when the moment finally comes and you are actually meditating in his presence, it's not surprising that you enter into states of complete ecstasy. Faith and belief are very powerful by themselves. Unfortunately Lenz gets all the credit, when mostly it's his students who are doing it for themselves. The "Energy" that he claims to transmit, is already inside each and every one of them. Does Rama always tell the truth? Rama lies constantly; but he is very careful to cover it up or to justify it with some "higher meaning". He can explain anything in terms of energy and dimensions that are beyond human conception - therefore, you can never know the whole truth about anything - because what you see and hear on the physical plane is just the tip of the iceberg. There are parallel universes that intersect with this one and your "subtle body" or "causal body" can be in different worlds while your physical body is in this one. So how can you ever know anything with any certainty until you're "Enlightened", and can "see" the way he does?... Therefore he is the only one who can tell you what is true and what is false......and who are you to judge an "Enlightened being"? "What is true for one person may be false to another.....everyone is at different levels." That's the kind of rhetoric his followers are used to hearing. They would never point out his "inconsistencies" in public, for fear of karmic retribution or verbal assaults by him directly. Note: I've used many generalizations when referring to students and their beliefs that may or may not apply to everyone in the group. Not everyone believes all of it. For example, many have doubts about Rama's Enlightenment, although they rarely ever talk about it. You'll have to carefully assess the mind frame of your friend or family member, and honestly consider your relationship with them. Don't assume that you know what they're thinking. You'll have to make inquires directly to them, and find out personally what they think and feel. All of these questions are mere suggestions; they could be reworded or restated in many ways. They are intended as a means of conversation (via phone calls or letters) between loved ones. They are not meant for the purpose of interviews or for "deprogramming". They should not be read as if from a list, and I wouldn't try to ask them all in one phone call. You'll probably need to talk to them more than a few times just to get an idea of what's going on in their minds. Letters may be an easier way to approach them (but don't wait for replies before you send a follow up, just keep sending them). If you talk about things regarding Lenz or the group that they haven't told you themselves, they may suspect you are collaborating with "the opposition", who are "out-to-get Rama". Don't try to suggest that they'd previously told you something if they didn't, that would definitely end all trust, and you may not hear from them for years. They are keenly aware of what information they give out and will not mention certain things to anyone at all! If you do mention something inadvertently, that they know didn't come from them, they may ask you how you got this information (you may notice their tone of voice change a little.) Go ahead and tell them you've spoken to a former student (or read something he wrote) who has described some of Rama's teachings, but that he didn't go into too much detail, also you've been studying Buddhism and now have questions of your own. Please be careful, as well as discreet. I'd prefer that you didn't use my name, but I don't mind if you need to. If they feel like you're being secretive, or holding something back it will only increase their paranoia. Better to mention "a former student" than to mention "CAN", or "LenzWatch". As of this writing, I have personally never spoken to, or met, a representative of either CAN or LenzWatch. Other commonly used Lenzian terms or teachings: Opposition This is a general term that includes anything that opposes Lenz and "the Dharma". On the physical plane it refers to CAN (whom Lenz calls 'the spiritual KKK'), LenzWatch (and it's leader Patrick Roe), Joe Szimhart (who Lenz considers a kidnapper/deprogrammer that works for CAN), Mark Laxer (considered a psychotic former student who wrote a book of lies) and "a handful of former students with personal vendettas against Rama" (which includes all former students who have appeared in the press and gone public). According to Lenz, these people are sick, crazy, fascists who "burned witches in their past lives", and have been reincarnating for centuries just to torment and discredit people who practice self-discovery. Supposedly CAN goes after certain families of his students (especially the wealthier ones), feeds them all sorts of lies about how he runs a "cult", then charges them thousands of dollars to kidnap and deprogram their "grown-up kid" as a service to them. Lenz claims it is a business and that they make between $20,000 and $50,000 "per hit". He makes them out to be racists who are collaborating with the "Dark Forces", and inspires fear and hatred amongst his students towards them. Read Orwell's "1984" to see how an evil enemy is necessary in a "Mind Control" environment. Of his former students he says that some have gone nuts because they couldn't handle the "high voltage" of his Energy, or else they are "jealous females", who wanted to be his only partner. He claims all these people are together conspiring "... to put me out of business". On the other planes (Astral or Dream planes), "opposition" refers to the "Dark Forces", "Negative Energies" and the "Entities" that like to prey upon people who practice advanced Yoga. This can be a truly haunting experience when students do start seeing "entities", and feel like they are being pursued and attacked by them. There is a perfect example in Castenada's Power of Silence where Don Juan tells a story of a huge monster that stalked him and waited outside his house so that he couldn't leave for 2 years. Later he discovered his teacher had suggested it, and it had only existed in his mind. Rama tends to suggest that his students are being attacked unwittingly in the "Dream plane" or "Astral plane" and even if they have no conscious recollection of it, they should beware. He no longer uses the term "demons" and claims that he never did use that term. He has been talking about this stuff much lately, and he does not encourage his new students to "dream", or "astral travel". He says all his intermediate students got carried away with that stuff and it really messed them up. He blames it all on them of course. He also accuses his students of "slamming" him with negative energy, or attacking him in some other realm that they are not even aware of. He assures them that it is true and that they'd better stop, before he gets pissed off. Since a lot of them are being abused by him, they naturally have some hateful thoughts towards him on occasion. Although they usually suppress these thoughts with great skill, they still know if they have been "guilty", and he certainly takes advantage of it. Some even feel that it is entities within their own mind and body that are causing the negative thoughts towards Rama. Students will begin to associate their inner doubts with their "lower nature". In Yoga it is taught that your Ego and "lower self' can be your worst enemy, and that you must overcome your "lower nature" before you can attain Enlightenment. Lenz teaches that a persons doubts and suspicions are part of their lower nature, therefore any thought that comes into your mind that contradicts his view, is immediately considered an obstacle that you must overcome. In this way students make a split between their own critical, rational, analytic mind and their un-doubting, trusting, emotional side. Their intuition and gut-feelings (which they are supposed to be fostering) often get confused with their lower side, and can be disregarded as well. Lenz also is fond of claiming that "90% of what you think and feel are not you own thoughts", that "you pick them up psychically". Students start to suspect their own inner-most feelings and assume they are picking it up from other people, or astral beings, or from their own "Ego". The more someone doubts, the easier it is to believe that there is some sort of opposition, whether it comes from outside or from within, that is interfering with their "practice". This split can become intense and the inner battle can externalize in the form of hallucinations, and the feeling that your soul is under siege by "negative forces". The amount of guilt, fear, and paranoia that he creates for them is ridiculous, but they feel it's all their own fault (because he tells them its is), and they will do anything to reconcile. Thus he controls them even more. Etiquette. Etiquette is a loosely defined term that Lenz uses to command respect from his students. He lectures extensively about the importance of "Buddhist etiquette" which he can describe to mean just about anything he wants, but usually refers to the student/teacher relationship. Any unacceptable behavior is termed "bad etiquette", and it implies that you do not have the proper attitude, or are not being "respectful". It can mean anything from asking an "inappropriate question" to wearing jeans at a seminar. He seems to expect people to figure out things on their own, like what is "appropriate" and what isn't. Sometimes it's obvious and sometimes it's not; he lets their imagination fill in the details. "Proper etiquette" is used as a threat, in that, if you don't have it, you could be 'toast'. It is known that if you "violate etiquette", you will be in big trouble; his "energy can backfire on you", you could get kicked out, or he could simply ignore you completely. He is certainly willing to kick people out at a moments notice, and often threatens to do so. Those who are kicked out will often do anything to get back in, and if they do get re-admitted, they will be perfect little brown-nosers after that. Certain questions (that he'd probably rather avoid), like inquires about his sex life, or asking him where he lives, are definitely "inappropriate", and it would be "bad etiquette" to ask. Then he will tell his students that they can ask him "anything they want"; and if they "have any problems with the nasty articles that appear in the news", to "just come up and ask me". (It's like saying "... and if you don't believe what I say, just ask me".) Reincarnation Lenz teaches, and almost everyone in the group believes, that they are immortal souls that live forever; that reincarnation is "the evolution of spirit through matter"; that souls evolve over countless lifetimes in this world and in many others. Their sense of time is expanded to include many eons. They feel as if they have been around on this planet for literally "thousands of lifetimes". They also believe that they have lived in other galaxies, on other planets, in different universes, in different worlds, and different dimensions, and that the lifetimes they have spent on Earth are a relative drop in the bucket, compared to the cosmic evolution that goes on for "millions of lifetimes". Lenz refers to Earth as a "detention hall planet" where immature, lowly evolved souls have to go and spend several thousand lifetimes in order to learn some lessons. He can merely point to the world situation, crime, pollution, or the local news, to prove the point that the souls who live here are not very spiritually mature. Lenz portrays himself as an ancient being who is far older and far more evolved than anyone else around him. He says there are only about 5 (no longer 12) other people on Earth that are at his level (the other 7 died, I guess) and none that are any higher. He says that he has been enlightened for many lifetimes, and that he has been a spiritual teacher for "many, many lifetimes." He claims that most of his training came from very radical teachers in another universe, giving the impression that he was at a very high degree of evolution before ever coming to this planet. He says that he comes From a "warrior school", where he mastered "the Siddhas" (magical powers including healing, controlling the weather, killing people, passing through dimensions and so on ...) and it was only later that he "became interested in this Enlightenment stuff". He never gives dates for any of this (except that he was supposed to reincarnate in Tibet in this lifetime, but the Chinese were destroying all the monasteries and committing genocide at the time, early 1950's], so he went to San Diego instead; due to its proximity to great "power spots" (i.e., the Anza Borrego desert). I never heard him claim to be any specific historical figure. It' s always stories like: "I taught that stuff (Zen) for about 50 lifetimes in Japan." He also talks a lot about "running monasteries" like he used to in Tibet, and "ashrams" in India. He says that the old days of monastic life and spiritual communities that separate themselves from the rest of the world, are coming to an end, and that all his students, who have spent hundreds of sheltered lifetimes in monasteries, now have to learn how to get by in the "outside world". He says that most of his students have huge "aversions" to money; that they've been taught that poverty is spiritual, and for so many lives they have lived as communal monks and nuns, that they are now in a real rut. He uses the Buddhist philosophy that both "desire" and "aversion" must be overcome before anyone can reach Enlightenment. Therefore the fastest way for his students to advance, is to become "materially successful" in order to overcome their "aversion" to wealth; and to learn how to navigate through the "bardo" of corporate America, as a spiritual and occult exercise . He often makes references to his students as if they were students of his in past lives, and that "we keep reincarnating together." He claims that one of his siddha "specialties" is "multi-life transits"; which he claims, is a complex siddha that involves increasing a students evolution to the point that they can pass into an advanced state of awareness in a relatively short amount of time; thereby accomplishing in a mere handful of lifetimes what would take a normal person several thousand. With this sort of carrot and stick in front of them, students will adopt a sense of self-sacrifice and commitment that makes whatever hardships they encounter in this lifetime seem trivial and inconsequential compared to the possibility of avoiding "thousands of lifetimes of suffering" (i.e., "Samsara"). Lenz further implies that anyone who opposes him, disrespects him, or otherwise fails to pucker up and kiss his ass, can be denied the chance of "Attainment" in this life and in countless future lives. So if you 'blow it' as his student you'll be screwed for the next umpteen thousand lifetimes. In my opinion, the threat of reincarnating on Earth for thousands of lifetimes without the possibility of Enlightenment or escape (especially in light of current global problems like over-population, destruction of the environment, racism, war, etc...) is a scary thought, but it amounts to the same rhetoric as a fire and brimstone preacher who threatens an eternal hell for sinners. Karma Karma, according to Lenz, is "the sum total of your awareness field." It is who and what you are. Everything you've done and everything you've been in this life and in all your past lives has culminated in what you are right now, at this very moment. You are responsible for your karma, your life is your own making, everything you do from this point on will affect your future karma, and so on.... Rama endorses the Sarah Conner (from Terminator 2) philosophy of "No Fate", that there is no pre-determined destiny, and that the Universe is in a constant, dynamic state of flux. There is cause and effect, but anything can be changed in the present, as long as there is sufficient "Energy". So people with "bad karma" can overcome it through certain methods; by circumambulating Mt. Kailash for example, or by simply following "the Pathway to Enlightenment", which to Lenz means following his "suggestions" and giving him lots of money. By the way, Lenz likes to use the terms "suggestions" or "recommendations" to refer to his rules and his prescribed methods of practice. Thus implying that you don't have to do what he says, but then at the same time he'll tell you that if you don't do what he "suggests" then your karma will be seriously affected. He has stated that the karma involved with "the decision to study with an Enlightened being is very serious," and the consequences can span many lifetimes. So again, if you screw up, or even if you leave on your own, your karma will suffer. He makes you feel as if you are bound by your decision, and instills a sense of fear of ever leaving "the study". Career/ Computer Science Learn how to program computers; learn C, C++, COBOL; learn relational database, Oracle, DB2, Sybase. Make tons of money, get a job consulting on Wall Street, learn how to run a business, be a private contractor, dress as a professional fortune 500 executive type, etc... Lenz preaches on these subjects endlessly. He promotes wealth and prosperity for his students, but I then emphasizes the danger of becoming selfish, so after you make a bundle, you should then learn self-less giving, "put it back into the system", and give most of it away..... to him..... or to "the group cause", which is him ...... so that he can then go out and supposedly "help" others. I have never heard him promote or endorse any kind of charity or non-profit organization. I don't think he wants his students to give money away to anyone but himself. The practice of selflessness is recognized throughout spiritual traditions and his students are some of the most selfless people I have ever met. If they are not, they can easily be made to feel guilty and "unevolved" because of it. This "spirit of giving" provides a tremendous source of income for Lenz, and he bilks it for all it's worth. His followers believe in what they are doing so they feel good about it, although the guilt they feel when they can't pay their full share, (because they are penniless) does feel awkward for people who work so hard and are supposedly so "advanced". Lenz runs his show like a business, and it is a business. Interglobal Seminars Inc. or ISI, (which is the new name for ASI, Advanced Systems Inc.) is a Delaware corporation and a 'for-profit' enterprise. He literally sells his spiritual teachings. He wants his students to be successful and make money so that he can justify raising their tuition higher and higher. The more they make the more he feels justified in doing so. After all, it was he who got them into the computer field and taught them how to be successful, and gave them all the "Energy" they needed, so he expects to be "paid back" for it, and I've heard him say just that. Physical exercise Lenz encourages all of his students to take care of their physical bodies, by exercising regularly and eating right. He strongly recommends the Martial Arts, (Karate, Judo, Aikido), and especially jogging. His old teacher (now nemesis) Sri Chinmoy is a fitness freak too. There is nothing wrong with fitness, it makes you feel good about yourself, "it releases Kundalini", and "makes you more attractive". Like meditation it is an individual experience (especially jogging) and fosters self-esteem. His endorsement of self-discipline and his subtle threats against "lazy slobs" can make even the most hardened "couch potato" lace up their running shoes and hit the pavement. Again I see people actively involved in their own self-improvement while giving all the credit to their "teacher' who has inspired (or intimidated) them; without Rama they'd still be "couch potatoes". So respect and gratitude are fostered for him, without any real effort on his part. ________________________ Another thing about his teachings is that you hardly have time to do them all. He keeps you so busy that you have no free time whatsoever. There's a certain guilt factor involved when you haven't read his latest book assignment or seen the latest required movie. Plus there's computer homework (programs to write and reading which is very time consuming), martial arts 2-3 times a week, your job, commuting, meditation twice a day, working out, cleaning your apartment, shopping, etc.... Sleep becomes a secondary concern, so students often live on less than 5 hours per night average. The idea of taking a weekend ski trip, going camping, or any I kind of non-group related event, no matter how alluring, is often unrealistic in light of peoples hectic time schedules. All week-ends are pretty well booked up with classes and group get-togethers. This puts a real damper on social life and isolates students from their outside friends. It seems like Lenz wants his students all to become workaholic yuppie nerds. ________________ Final Note: I feel great now that I am out of the group. I have more energy because I get more sleep, have more time to enjoy life, and feel less stress from the all the pressure to "succeed materially". I have more money now, and I have my freedom. I am free to make my own decisions about I everything in my life without worrying about karma, negative energy, or "astral beings" who are trying to drain me. I suppose I could worry about them if I wanted, but I choose not to. All of Lenz's followers are great people, they are smart, funny, fun-loving and adventurous. Many of my dearest friends are still in there. The hardest thing about leaving was the idea of losing touch with these friends, and the sickening realization of what's happening to them. I have no doubt that Lenz is an ordinary man with an extraordinary ego. His proclaimed siddha powers are a joke. I've been "slamming him inwardly" so much lately, that I ought to be dead by now. But I have suffered no psychic retribution and my karma is feeling wonderful. I am not afraid of him. He is an insecure pussy who needs to be worshipped by others in order to feel good about himself. I doubt he could kill a flea with his Chi. His infantile displays of magic could be reproduced by any cut-rate mystic or your local hypnotist. He makes people feel awful about themselves, and he ridicules them. He's no Buddhist. He's made a mockery of Eastern religions and deserves condemnation and recognition as a charlatan. The guy does not know the meaning of compassion. He once said, "I don't trust anyone who says they love me." So he must not know the meaning of love either. Plus he's paranoid. I hope this has been of some help to you. I am sorry if your friend or loved one is still involved with Lenz, they are probably being deceived and living in a state of denial. But remember, they could snap out of it, if something drastic happens or if things just don't feel right to them anymore. If that happens, offer them a time and place to think (though they may have phobias about "coming home"), and encourage them to speak to a professional as soon as possible. I personally recommend Joe Szimhart. Meanwhile, I suggest that you educate yourself and try to maintain friendly communications with them. Remind them of things they used to love (hobbies, music, friends, etc... - happy things that they've lost touch with). In your heart give them tons of love, and remind them that you will always be there for them when they need you. And never give up.